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18F26J50 doesn't work usb!

 
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18F26J50 doesn't work usb!
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:57 pm     Reply with quote

Code:

#include <18F26J50.h>
#fuses INTRC_PLL,PLL2,CPUDIV6
#use delay(clock=8M)

Where is mistake?
Led blinking is working but usb doesn't work. I want to execute the internal oscillator.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:23 pm     Reply with quote

Study section 3.4.
The internal oscillator, _only_ supports the USB in low speed mode, not full speed mode. CPUDIV1, is the only supported divider. The CPU, then runs at 24MHz. You also need to make the changes in the USB code you are using to select low speed mode. Table 3-5, the second entry from the bottom, line in black, is the only one that is supported. Paragraph 3.3.1, gives this.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:15 pm     Reply with quote

Code:
#include <18F26J50.h>
#fuses INTRC_PLL,PLL2,CPUDIV2
#use delay(clock=24M)

I changed but it doesn't work yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:12 am     Reply with quote

Have you changed the USB code?.
You need:

#define USB_USE_FULL_SPEED FALSE

before you load the USB libraries.

Also have you got 3.3v fed into Vusb?. Required on these chips (no internal regulator).

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:03 am     Reply with quote

Code:

#include <18F26J50.h>
#fuses INTRC_PLL,PLL2,CPUDIV2
#use delay(clock=24M)
#define USB_USE_FULL_SPEED FALSE

#define USB_CONFIG_HID_TX_SIZE   2
#define USB_CONFIG_HID_RX_SIZE   2
#include <pic18_usb.h>   
#include <usb_j50_hid.h>   
#include <usb.c>       

 
void usb_debug_task(void)
{

   int8 new_connected;
   int8 new_enumerated;

   new_connected=usb_attached();
   new_enumerated=usb_enumerated();

   if (new_enumerated)
     output_high(PIN_B0);
   else
       output_low(PIN_B0);
}

void main(void)
{
   int8 out_data[USB_CONFIG_HID_TX_SIZE];
   int8 in_data[USB_CONFIG_HID_RX_SIZE];
   usb_init_cs();


   while (TRUE)
   {
   

      usb_task();
      usb_debug_task();

      if (usb_enumerated())
      {
         if (usb_kbhit(1))
         {
         
       
      usb_get_packet(1, in_data, 1);
     switch(in_data[0])
     {
     
       
     case 1:output_high(PIN_B1);
     break;
     
     case 2:output_low(PIN_B1);
     break;
     
     case 5:  out_data[0]=77;   out_data[1]=78;   
      usb_put_packet(1,out_data,1,USB_DTS_TOGGLE);
      break;
     
     
    } 

         }
         
      }
   }
}


This is full code. It worked with 18F4550. Same code only changed fuses settigs. I don't understand.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:42 am     Reply with quote

Obvious thing is hardware.
You do realise that the 26J50, is a low voltage device. Needs a supply between 2.35, and 3.6v fed to the chip, and Vusb, needs a supply between the Vdd level, and 3.6v max - normally simplest setup, is 3.3v for the whole chip. Also you are using init_cs, which implies you must have the sense connection setup to detect when USB is connected.
Have you 'stepped back', and verified the chip is actually running, and can toggle a pin at the expected speed (will show any oscillator setup errors)?. This should always be the starting point.
I'd also add NOXINST (should be the default, but worth being sure). Also, on these chips the PLL, is software controllable, so add:

setup_oscillator(OSC_PLL_ON);

as the first line of your main code.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:34 am     Reply with quote

Circuit has 1,4v diode (BAS31). Therefore 5V-1,4V= 3,6V power supply.
Also this circuit was work. It doesn't new circuit. I try on mplabx and it work.
I guess settings problem. Thanks Ttelmah.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:08 pm     Reply with quote

Seriously, check the stability, and voltage on the supply. 3.6v, is _pushing it_ for USB. It is the _absolute maximum voltage allowed by the bus_, for the Vusb pin. If you are even 0.05v above this, USB is not going to work. You really need to be aiming for 3.3v. It is also the absolute maximum for the chip. You should be aiming for a supply voltage below this. A zener dropper is not really a safe way to do this, since if supply current falls, so will the drop.
Bit puzzled, since the BAS31, is a double avalanche diode, not a zener, and as such is absolutely unsuitable as a dropper. The Vf of each diode potentially will be about 0.7v, if you are drawing 50mA or more from it, but at typical PIC operating current, can easily be closer to 0.6v....
Use a proper regulator.
Remember also good decoupling is needed at the Vusb pin, and the Vdd pin.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:18 pm     Reply with quote

definitely power supply is 3.6 V. also this device is working. I erased chip. I must write new code. thanks

http://www.microchip.com/forums/download.axd?file=0;496849
these code is working. (similarly circuit)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:52 pm     Reply with quote

Code:

#include <18F26J50.h>
#fuses INTRC_PLL,PLL2,CPUDIV2


#use delay(clock=6M)
// or clock=8M




#define USB_CONFIG_HID_TX_SIZE   2
#define USB_CONFIG_HID_RX_SIZE   2
#include <pic18_usb.h>   
#include <usb_j50_hid.h>   
#include <usb.c>       

 
void usb_debug_task(void)
{

   int8 new_connected;
   int8 new_enumerated;

   new_connected=usb_attached();
   new_enumerated=usb_enumerated();

   if (new_enumerated)
     output_high(PIN_B0);
   else
       output_low(PIN_B0);
}

void main(void)
{
 
   int8 out_data[USB_CONFIG_HID_TX_SIZE];
   int8 in_data[USB_CONFIG_HID_RX_SIZE];
   setup_oscillator(OSC_PLL_ON);
   usb_init_cs();


   while (TRUE)
   {
   

      usb_task();
      usb_debug_task();

      if (usb_enumerated())
      {
         if (usb_kbhit(1))
         {
         
       
      usb_get_packet(1, in_data, 1);
     switch(in_data[0])
     {
     
       
     case 1:output_high(PIN_B1);
     break;
     
     case 2:output_low(PIN_B1);
     break;
     
     case 5:  out_data[0]=77;   out_data[1]=78;   
      usb_put_packet(1,out_data,2,USB_DTS_TOGGLE);
      break;
     
     
    } 

         }
         
      }
   }
}


It is working now.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:39 pm     Reply with quote

With the same fuses, and clock line, do a simple 'flash an LED to 10 seconds' routine (no USB). What speed does the LED flash....
It won't be right.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:49 pm     Reply with quote

ttelmah;
can you write basic routine? i try only USB working. maybe it doesn't led flash
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