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ljunior



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Software Serial
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:32 am     Reply with quote

Hello,

Is it possible to implement a serial communication thru the usb pins, PIN_C4 and PIN_C5, in PIC18F4550?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:38 am     Reply with quote

I an not familiar with your particular PIC, but using the built in CCS software serial functions you can use whatever pins you want.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:14 am     Reply with quote

gee..one that I can answer ! I'm using the 4550....
Yes, if you're not using the USB peripheral of the PIC, those pins can be used for discrete I/O or software serial uses.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:32 am     Reply with quote

so is this a SECOND serial port??
and you are (already_using || decline2use)
the superior EUSART on pin c6,7 ??

in ANY application i have ever done
software based serial comm was the DEAD LAST CHOICE.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:13 pm     Reply with quote

You guys should look at the 18F4550 data sheet:
http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/39632e.pdf
It explains what each pin can do.

Look in the Table of Contents in the Acrobat reader and click on the "+"
to expand this section:
Quote:

1.0 DEVICE OVERVIEW

Then click on the "+" for this section to expand it:
Quote:

1.3 Details on Individual Family Members


Then click on the specific PIC in the family that you want. For example,
we want the 18F4550:
Quote:

TABLE 1-3: PIC18F4455/4550 PINOUT I/O DESCRIPTIONS



Then click down the pages until you get to the table for Port C.
Here's the section about pins C4 and C5:
Code:

  Pin       Pin
  Name      Type     Description
RC4/D-/VM   

   RC4       I       Digital input
   D-       I/O
   VM        I
   
RC5/D+/VM   

   RC5       I       Digital input
   D+       I/O
   VP        I
     

It shows that when those pins are configured as ordinary PIC pins
(not used for USB), they can only be digital inputs. They can't do output.
This means they can't be used as the Tx pin in a software UART.
But they could be used as the Rx pin.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:43 pm     Reply with quote

well, that's just silly....I'd assumed that Microchip kept the full port as I/O from decades ago and just 'added' internal peripherals as the years went by.Just looking at the pinout diagram isn't enough any more !
With that in mind, a simple 'pop a newer chip in' will NOT work for an upgrade to gain more memory or newer feature.
Sigh...maybe I should have stuck to using the 877.....
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