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		| cbkulatunge 
 
 
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				| LED Signboard |  
				|  Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:06 am |   |  
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				| can anyone help me to design a LED sign board? |  | 
	
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		| ezflyr 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:54 am |   |  
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				| Hi, 
 I might be interested. Did you have a target pay scale in mind for the project
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 John
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		| temtronic 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:58 pm |   |  
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				| Would need to know 1) size of sign
 2) pixel count ( x vs. y)
 3) display data a) characters ( a-z, #s,etc)
 or b) graphics
 4) dynamic or static , update rate, refresh ,etc.
 5) colour of LEDs, mono,RGB, ?
 6) power per LED , pixel?
 7) indoor, ourdoor ?
 8) data entry interface, PC link,keypad,usb flashdrive,wifi ?
 9) message length,# of messages,
 10) do you want schematics,code,Proof of Concept prototype,Alpha module ?
 11) portable or fixed, available power( 120,240,1ph,3ph,battery )?
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		| cbkulatunge 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:23 am |   |  
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				| first i would like try small indoor one like 8x64. |  | 
	
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		| bkamen 
 
 
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				| Re: LED Signboard |  
				|  Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:35 am |   |  
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				|  	  | cbkulatunge wrote: |  	  | can anyone help me to design a LED sign board? | 
 
 Your best bet is to go to Sams Clubs or Staples and buy one.
 
 (Sam's Sells an RGB model made by AMS that works great over serial/usb).
 
 
 I have mine connected via bluetooth dongle (although used to be on the network via serial->ip host) that's run by a bunch of scripts.
 
 -Ben
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		| temtronic 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:09 pm |   |  
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				| that's cheating !!! 
 You're supposed to spend hundreds of dollars on parts, and a thousand  man hours cutting code and burning fingers THEN go buy one off the shelf !!
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		| bkamen 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:38 pm |   |  
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				|  	  | temtronic wrote: |  	  | that's cheating !!! 
 You're supposed to spend hundreds of dollars on parts, and a thousand  man hours cutting code and burning fingers THEN go buy one off the shelf !!
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 Only if the sign doesn't do what the ones off the shelf don't do.
 
 And trust me, I have 2 of these things and AMS did a nice job.
 
 One is RGB I've had for a few years, the other is RG (no B) that I've had for like 15yrs and still works awesome.
 
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		| cbkulatunge 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:33 am |   |  
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				| Thanx for reply guys, I really want to design it my self. First give me some theory of operation.
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		| temtronic 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:13 am |   |  
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				| theory is simple, You want to turn on and off a matrix of LEDs based on some 'data'.
 Step one is to program a PIC with 8 LEDs(and current limiting resistors) connected to one port. Cut code to turn on 1 LED,then expand your code for more LEDS and patterns.
 
 Step two would be to cut additional code to allow the 'pattern' to be sent  from say a PC and then displayed on the 8 LEDs.
 
 For you 8 by 64 display of LEDs, I'd probably use 4 pcs of MC14514, 4 to 16 decoder chips.This would only require 1 port(8 bits) for the data(row of LEDs, on or off) and 1 port(8 bits) to control which of the 64 columns the data is to be displayed.Each column will need a transistor driver and current limiting resistor.
 
 Since this is a matix display, a refresh rate will have to be determined, usually less than 100 Hz,
 
 Step 3, wire up just 1 of the decoders and get it all to work. Once you're happy with the 8 by 16 display, just add 3 more decoder circuits and cut more code...
 
 There are other chips than the one I suggested to build the circuit, but it's tried and true and easy to figure out.I've used it for 3 decades.You can even get single  40 pin PIC to do the whole project,depending on your skill level.
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