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external eeprom w/r speed.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:22 pm     Reply with quote

I am using a 24fc515 eeprom, according my program, I find out the it meed about 5 minutes to write to the whole eerpom space. do you it is about 218-273byte/s. I think it might be slow, but I do not know exactly how fast it could be. could anybody tell me how the speed usually be?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:29 pm     Reply with quote

Read the datasheet. Maximum write time is 5ms. You can write byte by byte so 64K * 5ms which is over 5 minutes or you can do page writes which will take you about 5 seconds.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:40 pm     Reply with quote

thank you, as you said I am writing byte by byte, which is about 5 minutes. How could I write it page by page?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:43 pm     Reply with quote

Instead of just sending it 1 byte, send it 64 bytes. The address must be page aligned or the index pointer will wrap and overwrite the wrong location. Read the datasheet and it will make more sense.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:56 pm     Reply with quote

Thank you, I am studying the datasheet right now, by the way, would you please check and correct what I am doing wrong with my page wrting coding
Code:

void write_ext_eeprom(int32 pages, BYTE data)
{
   short int status,eeprnum;
   long int quotient, remainder;
   i2c_start();
   if(pages*64<0x8000)
    i2c_write(0xa0);
   else
     i2c_write(0xa8);
   for(i=0;i<64;i++)
{
   i2c_write((pages*64+i>>8) & 0xFF);
   i2c_write(pages*64+i & 0xFF);
   i2c_write(data);
   i2c_stop();
   i2c_start();
   if(pages*64+i<0x8000)
      status=i2c_write(0xa0);
   else
     status=i2c_write(0xa8);
   while(status==1)
   {
      i2c_start();
      if(pages*64+i<0x8000)
        status=i2c_write(0xa0);
      else
        status=i2c_write(0xa8);
   }
 }
}
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:19 pm     Reply with quote

Code:
void write_ext_eeprom(int32 pages, BYTE *data)
{
   int i;

   i2c_start();
   if(pages*64<0x8000)
     i2c_write(0xa0);
   else
     i2c_write(0xa8);
   i2c_write((pages*64+i>>8) & 0xFF);
   i2c_write(pages*64+i & 0xFF);
   for(i=0;i<64;i++)
      i2c_write(data++);
   i2c_stop();
 }

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 12:23 pm     Reply with quote

If you need speed, on a byte by byte basis,.. check out the fram.
It is very fast. and may fit right into your 8 pin socket of the serial eprom.
I use a FM24C04 from ramtron hooked to the i2C bus like the serial eprom would be.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 12:39 pm     Reply with quote

He also does not check to see if the device is ready before blasting it with more data. He should fix this or probably get by with the FRAM since it is so fast.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:57 am     Reply with quote

I changed the program posted by asmalli a little, because I thought some place is not proper. however, I could not run the program, please check it and provide some advice please.
Code:

void write_ext_eeprom(int32 pages, BYTE data)
{
   int i;

   i2c_start();
   if(pages*64<0x8000)
     i2c_write(0xa0);
   else
     i2c_write(0xa8);
   i2c_write((pages*64>>8) & 0xFF);
   i2c_write(pages*64 & 0xFF);
   for(i=0;i<64;i++)
      i2c_write(data);
   i2c_stop();
 }



init_eeprom();
for(i=0;i<1024;i++)
write_ext_eeprom(i,0);
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:26 am     Reply with quote

Bug:
- Data must be a pointer! Or how are you otherwise going to access the data in the buffer?
- You never adjust the contents of Data, so writing the same value everytime.

Also some optimizations possible:
- Using an int32 for Page is a waste of memory.
- You are 3 times calculating 'pages*64'. Better to do it once.
- make8(var, offset) is just a single byte move instruction and much faster than (((var >> (offset*8)) & 0xff)

Code:
void write_ext_eeprom(int32 pages, BYTE *data)
{
   int i;
   int16 StartAddr;

   StartAddr = pages * 64;
   i2c_start();
   if (StartAddr < 0x8000)
     i2c_write(0xa0);
   else
     i2c_write(0xa8);
   i2c_write( make8(StartAddr,1) );
   i2c_write( make8(StartAddr,0) );
   for(i=0;i<64;i++)
      i2c_write(data++);
   i2c_stop();
 }


I haven't tested the above.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:59 am     Reply with quote

I tested your program, same thing, the program could not work
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:25 pm     Reply with quote

Quote:
I tested your program, same thing, the program could not work


You have to call the function correctly as well. You really should post a small test program.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:14 pm     Reply with quote

Following is the code, I made two sub routine fro external eeprom, one is for singal data write write_ext_eeprom(), one is for pages write write_ext_eeprom1(). I want to initialize the external eeprom as zero in the int_rda, with write_ext_eeprom(), it works fine but take abi\out 5 minutes with write_ext_eeprom1(), it is not working.
Thank you.

Code:

#if defined(__PCM__)
#include <16F76.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#fuses XT,WDT,NOPROTECT
//#device ADC=10
#use delay(clock=4000000)
#use rs232(baud=9600, parity=N, xmit=PIN_C6, rcv=PIN_C7)

#ifndef EEPROM_SDA
#define EEPROM_SDA  PIN_C4
#define EEPROM_SCL  PIN_C3
#endif
#use i2c(master, sda=EEPROM_SDA, scl=EEPROM_SCL)

#define EEPROM_ADDRESS long int
#define EEPROM_SIZE   65536


int8 frequency,i, length,data[64];
int32 j=0, danum=0;
char b, status, status1[10];

void init_ext_eeprom()
{
   output_float(EEPROM_SCL);
   output_float(EEPROM_SDA);
}

void write_ext_eeprom(int32 address, BYTE data)
{
   short int status,eeprnum;
   long int quotient, remainder;
   i2c_start();
   if(address<0x8000)
     i2c_write(0xa0);
   else
     i2c_write(0xa8);
   i2c_write((address>>8) & 0xFF);
   i2c_write(address & 0xFF);
   i2c_write(data);
   i2c_stop();
   i2c_start();
   if(address<0x8000)
      status=i2c_write(0xa0);
   else
     status=i2c_write(0xa8);
   while(status==1)
   {
      i2c_start();
      if(address<0x8000)
        status=i2c_write(0xa0);
      else
        status=i2c_write(0xa8);
   }
}

//write in pages to external eeprom
void write_ext_eeprom1(int16 pages, BYTE *data)
{
   int16 StartAddr;
   short int status;

   StartAddr = pages * 64;
   i2c_start();
   if (StartAddr < 0x8000)
     i2c_write(0xa0);
   else
     i2c_write(0xa8);
   i2c_write( make8(StartAddr,1) );
   i2c_write( make8(StartAddr,0) );
   for(i=0;i<64;i++)
      i2c_write(data++);
   i2c_stop();
   
}


BYTE read_ext_eeprom(int32 address)
{
   BYTE data;
   long int quotient, remainder;

   i2c_start();

    if(address<0x8000)
     i2c_write(0xa0);
   else
     i2c_write(0xa8);

   i2c_write(address>>8);
   i2c_write(address);
   i2c_start();
   if(address<0x8000)
     i2c_write(0xa1);
   else
     i2c_write(0xa9);

   data=i2c_read(0);
   i2c_stop();
   return(data);
}


#int_rda
void RDA_isr()
{
 gets(status1);
 status=status1[0];

 if(status=='R')
   {
   for(j=0;j<64;j++)
      data[j]=0;
 
   for(j=0;j<1023;j++)
   {      write_ext_eeprom1(j,data);
   }
 
}

void main()
{
   int8 temperature,humidity,tilt, write_read;
   int16 total;
   int i,SleepCount=0;

   setup_port_a(AN0_AN1_AN3);
   setup_adc( ADC_CLOCK_INTERNAL );
   set_tris_a(0xFF);   //set ccp1 pin as low as output ccp1 pin is b2

   enable_interrupts(INT_RDA);
   enable_interrupts(global);
   init_ext_eeprom();

while(1)
 {
    }
}

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:25 pm     Reply with quote

in the int_rda subroutine;

if I changed to
Code:

#int_rda
void RDA_isr()
{
 gets(status1);
 status=status1[0];

 if(status=='R')
   {
   for(j=0;j<64;j++)
      data[j]=0;
 
      write_ext_eeprom1(1023,data);
   
 
}
it still could work, the problem seems like the for loop, but I did not see any problem of the for loop, please help
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:35 pm     Reply with quote

if I put the for loop as

for(j=0;j<1023;j++)
{ output_high(PIN_A2);
delay_ms(200);
output_low(PIN_A2);
delay_ms(200);
write_ext_eeprom1(j,data);

}

the led just blink a few times, then stop looping.
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