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Interesting problem here...
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:13 am     Reply with quote

Hi to all.

I am working on a piece of code that drives me crazy..

My uC is PIC18F4620, My compiler verison is 4.068. My code was working perfectly until I add some more functions. Then suddenly it stops functioning.

My uC is communicating with other uC with same type via rs485. My transmitting uC is working without problem. And code on that uC is fixed. I am not changing it.

On receiver side which causes problem. When I download an older version of my code it works. So, there is no electrical problem. Problem is software.

My original program was much longer but I delete most of the functions in order to debug where the problem is. Finally I delete all functions except the one that receives rs485 data.

So, there is 2 functions 1 main and 1 rs485 receiving function.

But my code was still not functioning.

Than I start to delete UNUSED variables since I delete all other functions. Than suddenly it start to work.

So I work around and here is what I conclude.

If I declare a variable like below it works
INT MODBUS_PACKET[17];

If I declare a variable like below it won't
INT MODBUS_PACKET[18];

You are probably saying that I am using all RAM. But my RAM usage is %6.

All the same program except 1 more integer that changes everything.

Also I must say that the variable above has nothing to do with my code. Compiler warns me that that variable is never being used.

Does anyone has experienced this kind of problem.

thanks.

dc
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:47 am     Reply with quote

Yes Razz
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Finally I delete all functions except the one that receives rs485 data.

Post this small program. Make sure it compiles with no errors before
you post it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:09 pm     Reply with quote

Wayne_ ,please explain this,in case you have an explanation,that makes sense of course Very Happy .I'm curious about this,and mainly how to avoid it.Thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:03 am     Reply with quote

Hi again,

I am posting my code below.

Code:

#include "D:\P_FILES\PROJECTS\XXXXXX\XXXXXX_WBLOCK\Software\MW_73.h"

#include <string.h>
#include <stdlib.h>

#use fast_io(A)
#use fast_io(B)
#use fast_io(C)
#use fast_io(D)
#use fast_io(E)     

#DEFINE VIB_PULSE    PIN_C3                     
#DEFINE Q4_IN2       PIN_D0
#DEFINE Q4_IN1       PIN_D1
#DEFINE Q3_IN2       PIN_D2
#DEFINE Q3_IN1       PIN_D3
#DEFINE Q2_IN2       PIN_D4
#DEFINE Q2_IN1       PIN_D5
#DEFINE Q1_IN2       PIN_D6
#DEFINE Q1_IN1       PIN_D7
#DEFINE HSENSOR_UP   PIN_C1
#DEFINE HSENSOR_DOWN PIN_C2
#DEFINE SERIALO      PIN_E1
#DEFINE SERIALI      PIN_E2
#DEFINE RS485_1TX    PIN_C5
#DEFINE RS485_1RX    PIN_C4
#DEFINE RS485_2TX    PIN_B0
#DEFINE RS485_2RX    PIN_C6
#DEFINE RS485_TXEN   PIN_C7
#DEFINE D_TX         PIN_A2
#DEFINE D_RX         PIN_A3
#DEFINE RESET_BAR    PIN_A0
#DEFINE RDY_BAR      PIN_A5
#DEFINE SCLK         PIN_A1
#DEFINE BN_2E0       PIN_B5
#DEFINE BN_2E1       PIN_B4
#DEFINE BN_2E2       PIN_B3
#DEFINE BN_2E3       PIN_B2
#DEFINE BN_2E4       PIN_B1

INT         SOFTWARE_VERSION;
INT32       GENERAL_PARAMETERS;

INT1        COMMUNICATION_TYPE,SEQUENTIAL_DISCHARGE,AVERAGE_CONTROL,ON_START_BOTH_UP_DOWN;
INT1        AUTOMATIC_VIBRATOR_INTENSITY;
INT         NUMBER_OF_DEFFERENT_PRODUCTS;
INT         DISCHARGE_PER_PACKAGE;
INT1        DISCHARGE_OF_MAIN_DOOR,FEEDING_MACHINE,HOLD_MAIN_DOOR_ON_MULTIPLE_DISCHARGE;
INT         NUMBER_OF_CHANNELS;
INT         REJECT_SIGNAL;
INT         MAIN_DOOR;                   
INT16       TARGET_WEIGHT;
INT16       UPPER_LIMIT;
INT16       LOWER_LIMIT;
INT16       C1TARGET_WEIGHT,C2TARGET_WEIGHT,C3TARGET_WEIGHT,C4TARGET_WEIGHT;
INT         C1MAX_DEVIATION;
INT         C2MAX_DEVIATION;
INT         C3MAX_DEVIATION;
INT         C4MAX_DEVIATION;
INT32       DISABLED_CHANNELS;   // 0-> CHANNEL IS DEAD, 1-> CHANNEL LIVE
INT         SEQUENTIAL_DISCHARGE_DELAY;
INT         REMOVE_TARE_PERIOD;
INT         DISCHARGE_NUMBER_UP_TO_TARE=0;      // IN EVERY DISCHARGE CHANNEL FUNCTION THIS MUST BE CHECKED
INT         NOT_IN_COMBINATION_LIMIT;
INT         FILLING_PERCENTAGE;
INT         STEP_DELAY_MOTOR_UP;
INT         STEP_DELAY_MOTOR_DOWN;       
INT         HOLD_TIME_MOTOR_UP;
INT         HOLD_TIME_MOTOR_DOWN;
INT         CENTER_POINT_OF_MOTOR_UP;
INT         CENTER_POINT_OF_MOTOR_DOWN;
INT         VIB_TO_CUP_UP_DELAY;
INT         CUP_UP_TO_CUP_DOWN_DELAY;
INT         CUP_DOWN_TO_MAIN_DOOR_DELAY;
INT         AD_SETTLING_TIME;
INT         CHANNEL_ID;
INT         SLOW_DISCHARGE_ANGLE;
INT         VIB_INTENSITY[29];
INT         VIB_DURATION[29];
INT         STEP_DELAY_MOTOR_MAIN_A;           
INT         STEP_DELAY_MOTOR_MAIN_B;           
INT         STEP_DELAY_MOTOR_MAIN_C;           
INT         STEP_DELAY_MOTOR_MAIN_D;           
INT         HOLD_TIME_MOTOR_MAIN_A;
INT         HOLD_TIME_MOTOR_MAIN_B;
INT         HOLD_TIME_MOTOR_MAIN_C;
INT         HOLD_TIME_MOTOR_MAIN_D;
INT         ANGLE_OF_MOTOR_MAIN_A;
INT         ANGLE_OF_MOTOR_MAIN_B;
INT         ANGLE_OF_MOTOR_MAIN_C;
INT         ANGLE_OF_MOTOR_MAIN_D;
INT16       AD_COEFF          =0;
INT         PROGRAM_ID;
INT16       PID_OFFSET;

INT         STEP_CNTUP        =0;                               
INT         STEP_CNTDW        =0;
INT         VIB_CNT           =0;
INT         PHASE_UP          =0;      // 1,2,3 OR 4
INT         PHASE_DW          =0;      // 1,2,3 OR 4
INT         PHASE_VIB         =0;
INT         STEP_OUTPUT       =0B11111111;   
INT16       DELAY_TICKS_UP;
INT16       DELAY_TICKS_DOWN;
INT16       DELAY_TICKS_VIB;
INT16       DELAY_TICKS_AD;
INT16       TIMER0_CNT;
INT16       TARGET_TIMER;
INT16       TIMER0_IS;

INT32       DATA485;
INT         FUNC485;
INT32       CHID485;
INT32       DATA485_;
INT         FUNC485_;
INT32       CHID485_;
//          MODBUS VARIABLES
INT         MODBUS_PACKET[9];

INT8        AD_COM_REG        =0;
INT8        AD_STATUS_REG     =0;
INT32       AD_DATA_REG       =0;
INT32       AD_DATA_REGT      =0;
INT32       AD_MODE_REG       =0;
INT32       AD_CONF_REG       =0;
INT32       AD_FILTER_REG     =0;
INT8        AD_DAC_REG        =0;
INT32       AD_OFFSET_REG     =0;
INT32       AD_GAIN_REG       =0;
INT32       AD_TEST_REG       =0;
INT32       AD_DATA_REGZERO   =0;
INT32       AD_DATA_REGAV     =0;         
CHAR        U_DATA[10];
CHAR        P_NAME[15];
INT1        RCV_TOGGLE;
INT         CNT1;
                                                 
// RECEIVING RS485 DATA
VOID RECV_RS485() {

   INT CNT1;
   
   CHID485=0;
   FUNC485=0;                           
   DATA485=0;
   RCV_TOGGLE = 1;

   FOR (CNT1 = 0 ; CNT1<=30 ; CNT1++)  {
      CHID485 = CHID485 | INPUT_STATE(RS485_1RX);  // 0
      CHID485 = CHID485<<1;
      WHILE (INPUT_STATE(RS485_2RX)==RCV_TOGGLE)    { }
      RCV_TOGGLE^=1;
      }
   CHID485 = CHID485 | INPUT_STATE(RS485_1RX);  // 0
   WHILE (INPUT_STATE(RS485_2RX)==RCV_TOGGLE)    { }
   RCV_TOGGLE^=1;
   
   FOR (CNT1 = 0 ; CNT1<=6 ; CNT1++)  {
      FUNC485 = FUNC485 | INPUT_STATE(RS485_1RX);  // 1
      FUNC485 = FUNC485<<1;   
      WHILE (INPUT_STATE(RS485_2RX)==RCV_TOGGLE)    { }
      RCV_TOGGLE^=1;
      }
   FUNC485 = FUNC485 | INPUT_STATE(RS485_1RX);
   WHILE (INPUT_STATE(RS485_2RX)==RCV_TOGGLE)    { }
   RCV_TOGGLE^=1;
   
   FOR (CNT1 = 0 ; CNT1<=30 ; CNT1++)  {
      DATA485 = DATA485 | INPUT_STATE(RS485_1RX);  // 16
      DATA485 = DATA485<<1;   
      WHILE (INPUT_STATE(RS485_2RX)==RCV_TOGGLE)    { }
      RCV_TOGGLE^=1;
      }
   // LAST BIT DO NOT WAIT
   DATA485 = DATA485 | INPUT_STATE(RS485_1RX);  // 31

   IF (CHANNEL_ID >= 1) {
      PRINTF("%LU ",CHID485);
      PRINTF("%U ",FUNC485);
      PRINTF("%LU \n\r",DATA485);
      }
   } // VOID RECV_RS485()                 

                               

                                                 
void main() {                             

   //           76543210
   SET_TRIS_A(0B00101000);
   SET_TRIS_B(0B00111110);         
   SET_TRIS_C(0B01010110);
   SET_TRIS_D(0B00000000);
   SET_TRIS_E(0B00000100);

   OUTPUT_A(0B00000000);                         
   OUTPUT_B(0B00000000);
   OUTPUT_C(0B00000000);
   OUTPUT_D(0B11111111);         
   OUTPUT_E(0B00000000);
   
   setup_adc_ports(NO_ANALOGS|VSS_VDD);
   setup_adc(ADC_OFF|ADC_TAD_MUL_0);
   setup_psp(PSP_DISABLED);
   setup_spi(SPI_SS_DISABLED);
   setup_wdt(WDT_OFF);                                                                                   
   setup_timer_0(RTCC_INTERNAL);
   setup_timer_1(T1_DISABLED);
   setup_timer_2(T2_DISABLED,0,1);
   setup_timer_3(T3_DISABLED|T3_DIV_BY_1);
   setup_comparator(NC_NC_NC_NC);
   setup_vref(FALSE);                                                                                           


   WHILE (1) {
   
      PRINTF("W..\n\r");
     
      WHILE ( !INPUT_STATE(RS485_2RX) )  {    }

      RECV_RS485();

      } 

} // void main() {


Also my header code.

Code:


#include <18F4620.h>
 
#device adc=8
                 
#FUSES NOWDT                    //No Watch Dog Timer
#FUSES WDT128                   //Watch Dog Timer uses 1:128 Postscale
#FUSES HS                       //High speed Osc (> 4mhz for PCM/PCH) (>10mhz for PCD)
#FUSES NOPROTECT                //Code not protected from reading
#FUSES IESO                     //Internal External Switch Over mode enabled
#FUSES BROWNOUT                 //Reset when brownout detected
#FUSES BORV43                   //Brownout reset at 4.3V
#FUSES PUT                      //Power Up Timer
#FUSES NOCPD                    //No EE protection
#FUSES STVREN                   //Stack full/underflow will cause reset
#FUSES NODEBUG                  //No Debug mode for ICD
#FUSES NOLVP                    //No low voltage prgming, B3(PIC16) or B5(PIC18) used for I/O
#FUSES NOWRT                    //Program memory not write protected
#FUSES NOWRTD                   //Data EEPROM not write protected
#FUSES NOEBTR                   //Memory not protected from table reads
#FUSES NOCPB                    //No Boot Block code protection
#FUSES NOEBTRB                  //Boot block not protected from table reads
#FUSES NOWRTC                   //configuration not registers write protected
#FUSES NOWRTB                   //Boot block not write protected
#FUSES FCMEN                    //Fail-safe clock monitor enabled
#FUSES XINST                  //Extended set extension and Indexed Addressing mode enabled
#FUSES noPBADEN                   //PORTB pins are configured as analog input channels on RESET
#FUSES LPT1OSC                  //Timer1 configured for low-power operation
#FUSES MCLR                     //Master Clear pin enabled

#use delay(clock=20000000)
#use rs232(baud=115200,parity=N,xmit=PIN_E1,rcv=PIN_E2,bits=8,invert)

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:09 am     Reply with quote

Quote:
#FUSES XINST

This fuse will cause the program to behave in erratic ways. Change the
fuse to NOXINST. Do this in all your programs.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:39 am     Reply with quote

I have changed it before, there was no difference.

But you are right. Compiler also warns that that feature is not supported.

Yesterday suddenly code start to work, so I put back all functions back.

Again there was no problem.

After playing around the for a while again it suddenly stop functioning.

But it is so strange that I am curious, maybe I was wrong, maybe I was downloading the working code. I do not know.

Also the problem can be vista too. Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:43 am     Reply with quote

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I have changed it before, there was no difference.

This implies that after you saw that "there was no difference", you set
it to XINST again. This is wrong. Never use XINST under any
circumstances. Always use NOXINST.


Quote:

Yesterday suddenly code start to work, so I put back all functions back.

You need to find out what made it suddenly start working. You need to
go back and trace through those steps again, and debug the problem.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:04 am     Reply with quote

sirius wrote:
Wayne_ ,please explain this,in case you have an explanation,that makes sense of course Very Happy .I'm curious about this,and mainly how to avoid it.Thanks!


dc_eng stated that by changing the array size he could make it fail or work, this usually indicates memory corruption as changing the size of the array moves variables around in memory. Although the corruption is always there (Unless it is the size of that array that is causing the problem (overrun)) it may not be noticeable depending on what variables are being corrupted.

I initially posted "Yes" and nothing else because dc_eng did not give us any information we could work with so I was being just as vague.
Now he has posted some code it is not quite so obvious, he also keeps changning the code from one extreme to the other without actually tracking down the problem
"Yesterday suddenly code start to work, so I put back all functions back."
"After playing around the for a while again it suddenly stop functioning. "

And what does this mean "Also the problem can be vista too." ?

The code is also hard to read as it contains alot of unused variables, A LOT OF UPPERCASE TEXT Smile, and a lot of global variables!

I will still endevour to try and find the problem based on what is given as others are doing as well Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:33 am     Reply with quote

Hi,

I try the following. I have increase my array to 1000,

INT MODBUS_PACKET[1000];

Than from top I start to delete unused variables 5-6 lines at a time.

Than suddenly something happened.

Compiler gave an error on my function, but I was just deleting unused variables. Also error was a syntax error.

So I re-compile without making any difference, than compiler says OK there is no problem.

And my function start to work.

Up to that compiler error function was not functioning because I have increased variables.

Can it be because of any hidden characters or so?

Or like wayne_ said because of capital letters Shocked

Wayne my laptop is 12" so I need big characters Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:14 am     Reply with quote

Using capitals shouldn't affect your program in this case Wink
Just makes it uncomfortable to read.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:19 am     Reply with quote

dc_eng wrote:
Hi,

I try the following. I have increase my array to 1000,

INT MODBUS_PACKET[1000];

Did it work ?
Quote:

Than from top I start to delete unused variables 5-6 lines at a time.

Than suddenly something happened.

Compiler gave an error on my function, but I was just deleting unused variables. Also error was a syntax error.

So I re-compile without making any difference, than compiler says OK there is no problem.

And my function start to work.

Up to that compiler error function was not functioning because I have increased variables.

?
Quote:

Can it be because of any hidden characters or so?

Unlikely.
Quote:

Or like wayne_ said because of capital letters Shocked

No
Quote:

Wayne my laptop is 12" so I need big characters Very Happy

LOL

Show us the code, tell us what change you made to make it work. Put the last thing you did back in, does it fail ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:41 am     Reply with quote

hi,

I have put a video capture of my PC. So that you can see the problem by eyes.

I again start from original program. Delete couple of functions and variables than it start to work. Previously I needed to delete all functions except receiver function. Again a weird thing.

I am adding a completely new variable than its gone.

Each file has 10 download limits.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:32 am     Reply with quote

So far I have found the following

Good output
2 43 0
Bad output
10 192 0

The second value should not be possible !
FUNC485=0;
Then read 6 bits into FUNC485.
192 = 11000000 (NEEDS 8 bits!)

This may be explaind by FUNC485 being inverted after the intialisation and before reading 6 zeros in.

The binary representation of the values also indicate that the bad data is actually part of the good data shifted.
1010 (10) 11000000 (192 ?) >> 4 = xxxx (2) 101011 (43)

It doesn't quite add because if the first 4 bits == 2 then you would get 101010 () for the 1st bad value.

Can you post the memory allocation of your variables, .lst file I think.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:44 am     Reply with quote

Also try using an int16 and an int32 for your dummy var which causes the problem and post your findings (work No work)

Also move the location of the dummy var, again post your findings.
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